[chromium-html5] Free Web Speech API, why pay?

[gene howell]

Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free HTML5
version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day and
have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is there
a difference in the two?

[PhistucK]

Post by gene howell
Anyone know if this is truly going away?

Why "truly"? Have you heard it is going away? If so, where?

The free version is only useful from within Chrome. I think Android WebView
cannot use it (though once it can, it will probably use the offline speech
recognition in Android, though this is just an assumption).
So if you want to use it from a native application, you simply cannot.

Regarding the differences, I imagine the cloud speech API is more
customizable and gives you more types of data (natural language processing)
than only transcripts.

☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free HTML5
version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day and
have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is there
a difference in the two?
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[gene howell]

In the beginning there was always talks about this being free only
temporarily. This is before the 60 limits and such. I guess that is how
they limited it but that is easily bypassed. I am doing 5-10 minute long
conversions thousands of times a day.

My apps are chrome apps so i am good with it just being Chrome. Hey if
Google is good with my use then I am not complaining. I just have been
hearing "through the grapevine" for a year or two that this would be
discontinued as a free option.

BTW we have been able to do some source edits and make this work beyond
chrome but currently it is janky. I am sure with more work it could be made
to work far more smoothly.

Post by PhistucK

Post by gene howell
Anyone know if this is truly going away?

Why "truly"? Have you heard it is going away? If so, where?
The free version is only useful from within Chrome. I think Android
WebView cannot use it (though once it can, it will probably use the offline
speech recognition in Android, though this is just an assumption).
So if you want to use it from a native application, you simply cannot.
Regarding the differences, I imagine the cloud speech API is more
customizable and gives you more types of data (natural language processing)
than only transcripts.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free
HTML5 version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day
and have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is
there a difference in the two?
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[PhistucK]

There was an issue on the issue tracker that asks to remove it -
crbug.com/726188

It was merged to a "decide what to do with this" issue instead -
crbug.com/699882

I guess plans were not discussed yet. So I do not think you will get an
official answer at the moment.
(I am building on this API a bit right now, but it is sort of a bonus
feature that does not work so well anyway and that I will be fine without)

Regarding non-Chrome usage of this specific API - while it is indeed
possible, it is not allowed and illegal. If you use your own API key, it
has a low quota (50 requests per day or something) that cannot be
increased. If you are using the API key of Chrome, well, it is totally
illegal and you probably cannot based commercial products on this.

☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
In the beginning there was always talks about this being free only
temporarily. This is before the 60 limits and such. I guess that is how
they limited it but that is easily bypassed. I am doing 5-10 minute long
conversions thousands of times a day.
My apps are chrome apps so i am good with it just being Chrome. Hey if
Google is good with my use then I am not complaining. I just have been
hearing "through the grapevine" for a year or two that this would be
discontinued as a free option.
BTW we have been able to do some source edits and make this work beyond
chrome but currently it is janky. I am sure with more work it could be made
to work far more smoothly.

Post by PhistucK

Post by gene howell
Anyone know if this is truly going away?

Why "truly"? Have you heard it is going away? If so, where?
The free version is only useful from within Chrome. I think Android
WebView cannot use it (though once it can, it will probably use the offline
speech recognition in Android, though this is just an assumption).
So if you want to use it from a native application, you simply cannot.
Regarding the differences, I imagine the cloud speech API is more
customizable and gives you more types of data (natural language processing)
than only transcripts.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free
HTML5 version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day
and have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is
there a difference in the two?
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[gene howell]

Thanks for the link! Very interesting. I guess my big concern is do I
continue to develop on it not knowing the future. I have no doubt I am
abusing it some with all my calls however it is a great test for the Chrome
guys to see it in a quick paced production environment. :P I doubt too many
people are using it as much as I am. I am sure someone has looked at the
server and said WTF...haha
I am definitely not using it on anything but Chrome. I never proceeded
with that project. It was more fiddling.

Post by PhistucK
There was an issue on the issue tracker that asks to remove it -
crbug.com/726188
It was merged to a "decide what to do with this" issue instead -
crbug.com/699882
I guess plans were not discussed yet. So I do not think you will get an
official answer at the moment.
(I am building on this API a bit right now, but it is sort of a bonus
feature that does not work so well anyway and that I will be fine without)
Regarding non-Chrome usage of this specific API - while it is indeed
possible, it is not allowed and illegal. If you use your own API key, it
has a low quota (50 requests per day or something) that cannot be
increased. If you are using the API key of Chrome, well, it is totally
illegal and you probably cannot based commercial products on this.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
In the beginning there was always talks about this being free only
temporarily. This is before the 60 limits and such. I guess that is how
they limited it but that is easily bypassed. I am doing 5-10 minute long
conversions thousands of times a day.
My apps are chrome apps so i am good with it just being Chrome. Hey if
Google is good with my use then I am not complaining. I just have been
hearing "through the grapevine" for a year or two that this would be
discontinued as a free option.
BTW we have been able to do some source edits and make this work beyond
chrome but currently it is janky. I am sure with more work it could be made
to work far more smoothly.

Post by PhistucK

Post by gene howell
Anyone know if this is truly going away?

Why "truly"? Have you heard it is going away? If so, where?
The free version is only useful from within Chrome. I think Android
WebView cannot use it (though once it can, it will probably use the offline
speech recognition in Android, though this is just an assumption).
So if you want to use it from a native application, you simply cannot.
Regarding the differences, I imagine the cloud speech API is more
customizable and gives you more types of data (natural language processing)
than only transcripts.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free
HTML5 version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day
and have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is
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[PhistucK]

It is a good question.

I do not think you are abusing it, this is the purpose of the API. It is
like you would think you abuse indexed databases if you stored a lot of
stuff in them. ;)

I think Firefox is still fiddling with the question as well (whether to
ship at all).
I think Edge at some point indicated positive signals about it, but I guess
the stance of Chrome might have affected their decision and it is now again
"Under consideration" without any priority.

No good answer...

On the other hand, crbug.com/487255 could be a positive signal of a
future... Or an indication of disparate groups within the Chrome team.

☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Thanks for the link! Very interesting. I guess my big concern is do I
continue to develop on it not knowing the future. I have no doubt I am
abusing it some with all my calls however it is a great test for the Chrome
guys to see it in a quick paced production environment. :P I doubt too many
people are using it as much as I am. I am sure someone has looked at the
server and said WTF...haha
I am definitely not using it on anything but Chrome. I never proceeded
with that project. It was more fiddling.

Post by PhistucK
There was an issue on the issue tracker that asks to remove it -
crbug.com/726188
It was merged to a "decide what to do with this" issue instead -
crbug.com/699882
I guess plans were not discussed yet. So I do not think you will get an
official answer at the moment.
(I am building on this API a bit right now, but it is sort of a bonus
feature that does not work so well anyway and that I will be fine without)
Regarding non-Chrome usage of this specific API - while it is indeed
possible, it is not allowed and illegal. If you use your own API key, it
has a low quota (50 requests per day or something) that cannot be
increased. If you are using the API key of Chrome, well, it is totally
illegal and you probably cannot based commercial products on this.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
In the beginning there was always talks about this being free only
temporarily. This is before the 60 limits and such. I guess that is how
they limited it but that is easily bypassed. I am doing 5-10 minute long
conversions thousands of times a day.
My apps are chrome apps so i am good with it just being Chrome. Hey if
Google is good with my use then I am not complaining. I just have been
hearing "through the grapevine" for a year or two that this would be
discontinued as a free option.
BTW we have been able to do some source edits and make this work beyond
chrome but currently it is janky. I am sure with more work it could be made
to work far more smoothly.

Post by PhistucK

Post by gene howell
Anyone know if this is truly going away?

Why "truly"? Have you heard it is going away? If so, where?
The free version is only useful from within Chrome. I think Android
WebView cannot use it (though once it can, it will probably use the offline
speech recognition in Android, though this is just an assumption).
So if you want to use it from a native application, you simply cannot.
Regarding the differences, I imagine the cloud speech API is more
customizable and gives you more types of data (natural language processing)
than only transcripts.
☆*PhistucK*

Post by gene howell
Just curious on why there is a paid version when I can use the free
HTML5 version for free all I want. I literally make millions a calls a day
and have been for some time. Anyone know if this is truly going away? Is
there a difference in the two?
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